Patrick Kennedy

And it's principally because people still feel the shadow of judgment and shame when someone says that they have a mental health issue.

It still feels very viscerally like it's a

personal moral failing on the part of people who suffer from it.

So even with the changes in stigma, we're still digging out of a big hole.

That is the biggest barrier.

It's meant that no one's up their game.

Because no one has demanded greater accountability.

You had better be on your toes when the American Cancer Society comes calling, if you're a politician.

If you're an AIDS action network, you had better be on your toes because the advocacy is unparalleled.

It's backed up with money and voting lists and town hall support.

But with this community, because we've been so anemic, people haven't needed to really worry about them being vaccinated.

that good at what they do.

And by the way, that's compounded by the fact that they're not paid.

So it's a vicious cycle.

They're not paid because they're not very good.

And they're not very good because they're not well paid.

My view is cancer, we've changed in the course of the last several decades because we threw a lot of money at it.

And for a long time, we never made great strides.

But in the last two decades, we've made enormous strides

and it shows what happens if you have the will now we have to have the will to do something and not be so obsessed right away with getting results because the results will come