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Patrick McGee

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372 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

I'm going to teach the local homegrown suppliers.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

I'm going to teach Huawei and Oppo and Vivo and Xiaomi.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

So Apple, in a sense, built up its own competitors who were able to rely on the very competencies that Apple had brought to the country.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

My sort of quip about this is that in the West, we often think that Apple killed Nokia, right?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Nokia wasn't able to keep up with multi-touch technology and software, the iOS.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

I think it's much more of a hardware story.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But if it's a hardware story, Apple was never big enough to kill Nokia.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Nokia often had 50% penetration in certain markets.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Apple's never had more than 20% globally.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

So who killed Nokia?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And the answer is the Chinese competitors that Apple had made so good by building up a supply chain that they could all rely on.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

It's such a pessimistic outlook at the end of the book, and it's unfortunately the one that I still have now.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

I'm always hoping that some expert is able to shake me out of my pessimism, and I've sort of been asking that adamantly of all sorts of people that I've been meeting over the last six months, and basically just nobody has been able to do it.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And they're not really even trying.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

I mean, the more you know about the fields, the more you understand about China's dominance in these sectors and how incapable other places are, not least of which America, but unfortunately India for a host of reasons as well.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

So, I mean, look, it's basically, you know, engineers and executives that are working in India on behalf of Apple or its suppliers like Foxconn and Tata that are the ones that are saying, like, this isn't working the way that we need it to, right?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

If you talk about India speed, you're not talking about the equivalent of Shenzhen or China speed.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

It's unfortunately a pejorative term.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

India just doesn't have the same next-door facilities or ecosystems.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

They want to have the higher value-added stuff