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Patrick McGee

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372 total appearances

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The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

the sort of things that the Koreans, for instance, are really great at.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But they don't quite get that what makes China so good is having everything, right?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Deeply skilled PhDs at Foxconn, coupled with migrant labor, where the job can literally be taught to you in 20 minutes on a Monday, and by Friday, you're already at the peak of your strength, your ability to be able to pull that off.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

India sort of doesn't want to play those roles, or rather the ministers driving the change in certain provinces like Tamil Nadu and Karnataka don't want to play those roles.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And yet, if they don't, they're never going to compete with China.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

So unfortunately, I'm quite pessimistic about our chances.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And I would maybe just point to basic statistics and projections like from the United Nations that would say China today has roughly one third of the value added in manufacturing.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And their projection for 2030 is that China will have 45% of it.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

I want to be more optimistic.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But when that's the sort of broader paradigm that we're working in, where's the optimism coming from?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

I mean, that's sort of the lesson, I think, over the last six months or so.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

So I would sort of say we're just watching that play out, right?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

I mean, even before Trump 2.0, it was Biden that put 100% tariffs on EVs coming from China.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And if Europe sort of doesn't impose that sort of policy, you're just going to see more and more electric vehicles taking over.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

There's this line from Noah Smith that I really like, you know, the economist who talks about how overcapacity is seen as a problem from a Western lens.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But through China's lens, this is just something where by producing more than they need and then exporting it at cutthroat prices or even losing money in certain respects, I mean, they're just deindustrializing other nations.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And that's not good for sort of capitalism in the profit sense.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But if you're using this as industrial statecraft, if not war,

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Profit is not the goal.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Thank you.