Patrick McGinnis

She's actually like a top 10 ballroom dancer, but also, you know, she was an econ major at Harvard.

Actually, one of the people, again, it goes back, this is what my whole ethos has been for the book.

Somebody asked me to lunch to figure out how they could do this themselves.

I talked to him.

He had been a trader at Deutsche Bank.

Guy went to Harvard, math major, but got blown out in the crisis, wanted to figure out what to do with his life.

I told him this idea.

He said, my best friend from Harvard is a literary agent.

You should talk to her.

That's how I met her.

So like, you know, you out there, if you're generous, this is a little bit like hokey, but if you're generous to the world, and I think you are, Nathan, you create tons of content that's out there.

So hard.

If you want to publish a book, you should know how hard it is.

It's wonderful.

And if you like it, then it's totally fine.

I have found you never really know what exactly works.

I had a decent preorder.

Yes, it really is.

And it's, and I find it to be, you know, from my experience, investing in startups, it's like running a startup with like, but you know, you're, you're driving in the car has sort of like, you need to turn on the windshield wiper.

You can a little bit.