Patrick McKenzie

And, you know, do not recover the money I've advanced the company.

Well, okay.

You know, do run the last payroll.

Did you end up recovering it in the end?

No.

Ended up being a donation from me personally to the effort.

If I can be pretty explicit about it, you know, to the extent kudos are deserved to anyone, you know, Carl Yang for taking up the torch and finding like 10 people in tech industry who would jump into something at nine o'clock.

Those 10 people, the other board members, the hundreds of volunteers, the team of about 12 people who worked out of full time for very full definitions of full time, virtually ceaseless for five, six months.

And there were other, you know, projects in civil society.

There were many people doing this as their day jobs.

like the American response effort is not one like small group of people anywhere.

It's the collection of all these things bouncing off of each other.

And I think like, you know, I'm happy about our individual impact.

I'm happy that if you like, descriptively speaking, if you Googled for the vaccine at any point, like vaccine near me after a certain day, you know, before a certain day, there was no answer.

After that day, there was an answer.

That answer came from us.

a little dissatisfied that that didn't come from people with vastly more ability to have caused that to happen much earlier.

But the ultimate takeaway is not about this little tiny piece of the puzzle.

It's how can we make the total puzzle better next time.

So