Patrick O'Shaughnessy

What was an edgy person?

Is that related to this notion of discontented and willful that you've talked a lot about?

A little more interesting this way.

Is there a room of creative conflict that most stands out in your memory where some idea came out of it?

Oh, no.

It's just my life.

If you think about this notion of instinct, acting on instinct and not based on data or research or things like this.

Why has that proven so powerful to you rather than the alternative?

One of the things I loved hearing the story was how once you decided to do something, you would drill all the way down to like bedrock foundation and the essence of something and then build back up from that understanding.

If you think back to the entertainment days at Paramount and Fox, you were part of so many of them.

What innovation stands out as the thing you're most proud of to the extent you are proud of something?

You think people should do more of that, set impossible goals, and then thrive in the constraint?

Of course.

The world will only handle so many.

I'd like to zoom to the Fox days.

What was it like working with Murdoch when he was facing hard challenges?

Well, it could be better.

There was a moment when The Simpsons and Home Alone together effectively saved his bacon.

That's true.

What was going on then?