Patrick Robbins

So including the renewable.

Exactly.

So it really changes the value proposition across the board.

You know, I remember I was attending a kind of retreat for energy organizers and analysts.

And, you know, a dear friend and colleague of mine was explaining how certain elements of the wholesale market work to some students.

And I walked by just as she was explaining that point.

And the student was like, that can't be how that works.

And she was like, it is.

He's like, that's crazy.

Yeah.

And she's like, I know, but that is how that works.

And so I bring that up because renewable energy, which, you know, megawatt hour per, you know, kilowatt hour by kilowatt hour is cheapest.

You know, that stands, you know, there's a lot of benefits for bringing down costs across the board when you build more renewable and storage.

So you're right that it will require upfront investment.

Everything does.

But I'd rather see that investment going to something that's going to bring down prices in the long term rather than keep us on this kind of volatile and expensive source in perpetuity.

I love Nat's face right now because that's the face that I've seen on anybody once they understand how that element of the wholesale market works.

It's it's yes, that is true for so many elements of the electric grid.

Worse than you knew.

And I do want to just do a quick plug, if you don't mind.