Patrick Robbins

You don't say.

Exactly.

Well, I think that this gets to, sorry to interrupt, but I think this gets to something really, really right that I think you were touching on, which is that we kind of have like a simultaneously overbuilt and underinvested grid.

Yes.

You know, it's this very strange paradox that we're in where the utility can't actually earn a profit on like the basic maintenance stuff.

And so their business model really, really encourages and really incentivizes this kind of CapEx bias toward building new substations and all of that.

And we we're on the hook for that.

you know, all of us who pay bills are on the hook for that.

So, you know, we really need to figure this out.

And like I said, I really think that there is a major, major opportunity for any elected official, any politician, you know, regardless of where they are for getting this right.

And, you know, I've seen lots and lots of

elected officials, you know, sort of trying to take this on.

I mean, honestly, I'll be I'll be just very real with you guys.

I feel like I've lost count of the number of press releases I've read where it's like X or Y state assembly member is taking on utility bills, you know.

And so everybody clearly like a lot of these people really feel like they need to seem like they are doing something about this problem.

But it is such an under understood issue.

sector, that that can really mean anything.

You know, I've seen everything from here in New York, our governor gutting our climate law, the CLCPA, and saying, you know, that's somehow going to save utility customers money for this thing that we never really actually enforced in the first place.

Or, you know, I've seen in New Jersey, you have Mickey Sherrill running on freezing rates and

Arguably, that contributed a lot to the success of of her campaign.