Patrick

Hail, rain, snow, wind, whatever.

It didn't matter until she got a glimpse of her.

So I don't know, I can't imagine, I just couldn't imagine how she felt or how hard it was to come to that realization, I have to do this and not wanting to do it, but just thinking to herself, if I don't do it, then...

It's really selfless.

It's selfless in any walk, shape or life.

But to think like that, you know, she did it, you know, for somebody that didn't deserve it.

I think she probably felt bad, but she probably felt a huge relief in that she was going to be getting the things that Sandra couldn't provide for her, like a proper mum and a dad, a proper education, holidays, things that people... In all retrospect, what would she provide for her on carer's allowance?

I was 13.

We were in bed and the knock came to the door and the man that brought us to school, we were very good friends with his kids, and he brought Sandra, James and Barney as well to school.

And my dad went to the door, like it must have been half two at night, and I heard him say, he said, oh, who was there?

I don't know why he didn't actually answer the door, just straight out.

Thank you.

And he said who it was.

And then I heard, and Father Pat Mumley, I heard him say, James has been in an accident.

And I heard my dad say, he thought it was a car accident.

And he said, oh my God, and is he okay?

And is the car badly damaged?

I'll never forget that.

And he said, oh no, no, no, Joe, it's not a car accident.

It's an accident at work.