Patton Oswalt

I mean, all I did was shepherd that.

I mean, I handed that book over to an investigator and a journalist and go, please help me do this because I was still so wrecked.

and they helped see it through.

But she definitely, it was very funny, we all had a lot of laughs watching at the press conference, because she came up with the name, the Golden State Killer.

Before that he didn't, and this is gonna sound really sick, but another cop, this guy Paul Holes, was like, yeah, he was never given a cool name, and that does hamper investigations.

If there isn't a name that lands with the public, Zodiac, Night Stalker, then sometimes these cases fade away.

So when she came up with Golden State Killer, something very evocative and weird and creepy about that name that she came up with, that did help reopen the case.

Now, obviously, yes, other investigators brought that case home.

She also did suggest using familial DNA, which they ended up doing, but whatever.

But it was very funny to watch them at these press conferences.

Someone was like, what about the work of Michelle McNamara?

And he was like, Michelle McNamara's work had nothing to do with us catching the Golden State Killer.

And we're all like,

You literally just used the name that helped.

Anyway, but yeah.

But that was like satisfying for us to watch.

Yeah, I just... The thing that I...

The thing that I wish was more, that she really wanted to be more focused on, and I'm seeing it in a lot of these, but not in all of them, is what she wanted the focus to be on was the investigators and was the victims, rather than making these serial killers have to be these dark anti-heroes.

Serial killers are zilches.

The reason that they're killing people is because they're a zilch in life.