Paul Capsis

And I couldn't find it.

So I was confused.

I mean, I got an idea, I guess, from the Greek side of my family, from my father, that...

Boys are boys and you're meant to be a boy.

And I remember very young, I thought I was a girl when I was very young.

And I dress up in girls' clothes and my grandmother just let me be because she saw me as a child and I was just playing and having fun and I was quiet, wasn't making trouble.

You know, and she let me be.

But then I discovered that I was this thing called boy, a boy.

And it came as a shock and a disappointment.

But then I had the thing at school.

So then I thought, whatever it is I am, people do not like me.

They don't like me for this thing that I am.

You know, so after the belly dancing, that all just ramped up and then it just stayed there until I left school pretty much.

Until about year 10, because by year 10...

most of the boys who were the type of boys who would go out of their way to call you something or to hit you or punch you or bash you, they, most of those boys had left by year 10.

So year 11 and 12,

completely different experience.

And also by year 10, I had pretty much entrenched myself into the art room because I had brilliant, beautiful art teachers in high school.

I had a wonderful English teacher.

I had a great geography teacher.