Paul Capsis

He was part of the, now I might get this wrong, the Smyrna War in Turkey.

and he was captured and he was a prisoner, I believe for around six years.

He'd been shot.

He could speak fluent Turkish.

And then he went back to Greece and had been affected by the war.

And he got into some trouble in Greece.

He's from the south of Greece, my grandfather, from the Peloponnesus, from Birguelia.

And his father paid his passage, a one-way passage, to Egypt and to never return to Greece.

And my grandfather never did.

And then when, in the late fifties, when the Egyptian government forced my family out of Egypt, there was a possible chance that they could return to Greece, but my grandfather didn't want my father and my uncle

my father's younger brother to go to Greece, to go into the army, the two year forced army that they had to do.

So he chose Australia because my grandmother had siblings in Australia, several, because when her, she had eight siblings and when everyone was forced out of Egypt, they went all over the world.

She had a sister go to England, a sister go to Canada, three of them went to Greece.

Three went to Australia.

So they went all over the place.

That's right.

Except she did.

She won the lottery the year I was born, my grandmother in 1964.

She won the lottery in Australia.

And she used the money and she went to see all her siblings.