Paul Conti

So intrusive.

So much of it is person-driven, but I do want to distinguish between things that are just purely bad that we might overcome or find some fire in our belly about or whatever the case may be, and things that may be boundaries or barriers, either purposely placed or not, that in a sense invite us or inform us of the possibility of striving and overcoming.

Okay.

It's not just what's the trauma, because what's the trauma that makes certain problems?

You have to match the trauma to the person,

And a big part of what you're matching to is that genetically based characteristic of how finely attuned is that empathic attunement to that compass.

I think

the impact of it is so disproportionately bad and hurtful.

compared to things that happen when we're not children.

And I want to be very careful about how I'm saying that because people can, through their strength and resilience and human interconnectedness, can overcome that.

I don't mean to say that anyone who's experienced those things can't make it through it or over it.

That part is not true.

But it is true that the impact is so disproportionate to anything else that can happen because the brain is

formulating.

If we say psychology is like applied neurobiology, and we look at both of those as different ends, even though there's a lot of gray in the middle, the neurobiology is changed.

So just one example of a much greater salience of vigilance mechanisms, of

of mechanisms of self-protection, mechanisms that can make a person feel more fear and more insecurity and hide themselves away from the world and not trust the world.

And I mean not trust the world even enough that, oh, I'd like to have a better job and another one is here that I could take, but

Maybe it could be worse.

And then being afraid of that.