Paul Conti

And I think, and my parents wanted me to see, like, hey, go see how that works.

And now you got 50 cents at the end of it, right?

And then you think about that when, you know, you want to buy baseball cards or, you know, you think about it and you work hard.

And I can remember, like, it was hard and I was sweating and I was tired and...

but I learned from it.

I mean, it's the reason I remember it today.

So, so yes, parents might want their kids to have like a good life, right.

But not necessarily an easy life, you know?

And I think that was done.

They took me to do that too.

So I have a greater sense of responsibility in a sense of like hard work is meaningful and it's important.

And, and I think that that kind of thing is good.

But if we separate that from something that's just denigrating, prejudicial, like I think those things aren't good, but they're unavoidable.

So it's not necessarily that, oh, is some trauma good?

I would look at it more that some trauma is unavoidable.

I mean, you know, it's hard to go, how do you go through life and not have any losses or anything negative or anything sad?

And then people are people.

There may be people who have not a lot of that.

And then there's a sort of complacency and they don't do as much as they could or feel as good as they could.

You know, then there's other people who have a highly attuned emotional, there's people with very highly attuned emotional compasses for which a little bit of trauma becomes inevitable.