Paul Crone

Yeah.

Okay, so you think the universities should say, we have 200 places in engineering or whatever it might be.

Okay, a couple of texts in on this.

One text says, everything Paul is saying is true, but also I have taught in courses where the points dropped and lots of students with low points struggled to pass.

Obviously, people with lower points got onto the course.

and then weren't able to cope.

It led to them struggling for a year only to fail a highly academic course.

It was so difficult to see they should have been using that time better to get on the correct path for them.

That was the point I was trying to make to you earlier, actually.

Yeah, we have a text in from Joe who says, too many students are going to third level.

We need more craftsmen, truck drivers, etc.

As a retired academic, I experienced about 40% of students starting a level seven engineering course were not suited for third level, but were probably there because of parents trying to be less snobbish.

And that's the point you were making, Paul, about apprenticeships.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And Suzanne says, in 2006, I was able to get into a general entry science course in Trinity with 475 points and then went on to become a dentist.

If I was trying to do the Leaving Cert now, I wouldn't have a hope of becoming a dentist.

It definitely needs to change.

So I suppose the point you were making about square pegs and round holes comes there.

Yeah.