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Paul Hawken

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Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

And one of the examples I give in the book is a scientist in New York who, a botanist, he wanted to know how many roots there Because that's where nourishment comes from. A plant comes from the soil. The energy comes from the sun, right? And carbon dioxide. Mix it well and you have sugar and the plant grows. But the plant sends down roots for moisture and for nutrients.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

And one of the examples I give in the book is a scientist in New York who, a botanist, he wanted to know how many roots there Because that's where nourishment comes from. A plant comes from the soil. The energy comes from the sun, right? And carbon dioxide. Mix it well and you have sugar and the plant grows. But the plant sends down roots for moisture and for nutrients.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

And one of the examples I give in the book is a scientist in New York who, a botanist, he wanted to know how many roots there Because that's where nourishment comes from. A plant comes from the soil. The energy comes from the sun, right? And carbon dioxide. Mix it well and you have sugar and the plant grows. But the plant sends down roots for moisture and for nutrients.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

So he wanted to know how many roots of ryegrass, a kernel, single kernel of rye. And using an electron microscope, he counted 14 million. 14 million, it's just like a ridiculous number. And 10 million were real roots and 4 million were hair roots. So we put that aside, 10 million roots. Well, what are they doing down there? They have hyphae on the tips.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

So he wanted to know how many roots of ryegrass, a kernel, single kernel of rye. And using an electron microscope, he counted 14 million. 14 million, it's just like a ridiculous number. And 10 million were real roots and 4 million were hair roots. So we put that aside, 10 million roots. Well, what are they doing down there? They have hyphae on the tips.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

So he wanted to know how many roots of ryegrass, a kernel, single kernel of rye. And using an electron microscope, he counted 14 million. 14 million, it's just like a ridiculous number. And 10 million were real roots and 4 million were hair roots. So we put that aside, 10 million roots. Well, what are they doing down there? They have hyphae on the tips.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

They're connected to mycelia, connected to fungi. And they're transacting, they're conversing. Conversing is the wrong word, communicating with the mycelia and vice versa. And basically the plant's saying, I need what? I like the nitrogen, I want phosphorus, I want selenium in some cases, zinc or whatever.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

They're connected to mycelia, connected to fungi. And they're transacting, they're conversing. Conversing is the wrong word, communicating with the mycelia and vice versa. And basically the plant's saying, I need what? I like the nitrogen, I want phosphorus, I want selenium in some cases, zinc or whatever.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

They're connected to mycelia, connected to fungi. And they're transacting, they're conversing. Conversing is the wrong word, communicating with the mycelia and vice versa. And basically the plant's saying, I need what? I like the nitrogen, I want phosphorus, I want selenium in some cases, zinc or whatever.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

The mycelium can understand it, and then in its network, which is extraordinary, it's producing it, bringing it back, and swapping it for carbohydrates. That's a single kernel of rye. Now, just step outside, look, go to a forest, look. We have no idea. And what we do know now, Drew, is that we've recorded mycelia. They are communicating.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

The mycelium can understand it, and then in its network, which is extraordinary, it's producing it, bringing it back, and swapping it for carbohydrates. That's a single kernel of rye. Now, just step outside, look, go to a forest, look. We have no idea. And what we do know now, Drew, is that we've recorded mycelia. They are communicating.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

The mycelium can understand it, and then in its network, which is extraordinary, it's producing it, bringing it back, and swapping it for carbohydrates. That's a single kernel of rye. Now, just step outside, look, go to a forest, look. We have no idea. And what we do know now, Drew, is that we've recorded mycelia. They are communicating.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

It's a clicking sound, like the Botswana and the San people in Botswana, sperm whales. It's a clicking sound. And it's in patterns. not just random. And the patterns repeat. And then there's series of patterns that clump together and repeat. And Adam Adamatsky at the Royal Society of London says, these are sentences. And of course, other mycologists have said, well, no, you're wrong.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

It's a clicking sound, like the Botswana and the San people in Botswana, sperm whales. It's a clicking sound. And it's in patterns. not just random. And the patterns repeat. And then there's series of patterns that clump together and repeat. And Adam Adamatsky at the Royal Society of London says, these are sentences. And of course, other mycologists have said, well, no, you're wrong.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

It's a clicking sound, like the Botswana and the San people in Botswana, sperm whales. It's a clicking sound. And it's in patterns. not just random. And the patterns repeat. And then there's series of patterns that clump together and repeat. And Adam Adamatsky at the Royal Society of London says, these are sentences. And of course, other mycologists have said, well, no, you're wrong.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

But he's saying, well, what is it then? what is it this systematic repetition of clicking sounds in series with spaces just like morse code in a way uh it's communication and and again you say well what does that have to do with you know climate change and this and that and a heating planet and in biodiversity but it has to do with you

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

But he's saying, well, what is it then? what is it this systematic repetition of clicking sounds in series with spaces just like morse code in a way uh it's communication and and again you say well what does that have to do with you know climate change and this and that and a heating planet and in biodiversity but it has to do with you

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

But he's saying, well, what is it then? what is it this systematic repetition of clicking sounds in series with spaces just like morse code in a way uh it's communication and and again you say well what does that have to do with you know climate change and this and that and a heating planet and in biodiversity but it has to do with you

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

And that is, if you see the world as it is, more like it is than what we believe it is, it changes you. I mean, Carving the Book of Life isn't a solution. It's not trying to change anything other than present the possibility of you seeing yourself in a different way. And through wonder, through a sense of...

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

And that is, if you see the world as it is, more like it is than what we believe it is, it changes you. I mean, Carving the Book of Life isn't a solution. It's not trying to change anything other than present the possibility of you seeing yourself in a different way. And through wonder, through a sense of...