Paul Keene

So if I was to do a panel, let's say some fancy place like Davos, right now they would say, Mr. Keene, who would you like to have in your panel?

And I would say Ezra Prasad of Cornell and Ian Bremmer of Tulane and Stanford.

Bremmer and Prasad would be lights out.

The Doom Loop is Azar Prasad's new book with really interesting discussions of stability.

And Ian Bremmer owns the high ground on this with Every Nation for Itself, The J Curve, and of course, Us Versus Them.

Dr. Bremmer joins us from Eurasia Group.

I look at the Doom Loop from Prasad, Ian, and the heart of the matter is we are in some form of stability today.

moving to instability.

Is that how you see it?

There's instability out there?

In the time we've got left, Ian, I think the question I'm getting this all the time, and I'm not informed like you, as simple as I can, what do you perceive post-Trump?

Do we return to what Paul and I knew years ago?

Do we go to some form of amended new?

What do you perceive in, say, 2028, 2030?

We don't care, Ian.

The only reason you're on today is pitchers and catchers with Red Sox down at Fort Myers Jet Blue Park.

You were behind home plate, I saw, for the playoffs last year.

What an improvement on the Red Sox, Dr. Bremer.

Can they do it again and improve further?

It's a weird – there's a mental health issue.