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Paul Kudrowski

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457 total appearances

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Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

So that's already beginning to play out in the strangest possible ways.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

The most obvious way is that we're already seeing energy inflation in part driven by, again, consumers being outbid, if you will, by data centers.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Because it's almost like the private equity phenomenon.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

If I'm a utility, I would love to have a bunch of large people I can put on, large buyers I can put on the grid because I can manage them.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

They're good for payment.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

They're not going to go away.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

But a bunch of people in some exurb in rural Virginia, yeah.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

I don't know.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Maybe they'll pay their bills.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Maybe they won't.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

So again, it's the same phenomenon that's happening at the larger scale in terms of the capital allocation.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

I'm perfectly happy to put these large buyers onto my network, meaning the power grid, because I feel like there's some security of payment.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

But there is this perverse thing happening at the same time.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

And we saw this in the PJM recent regulatory filing that got kind of ditched.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

But they were proposing to add people to their network.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

They're an interconnect provider in

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Northeast, one of the largest.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

And they were proposing to add data centers to the grid with the proviso that any time the utility is under utility, the grid is under stress and I have to cut back because of a heat wave or because of heating or whatever else.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

I can disconnect the data centers because, you know, it's fine for a few hours if they disconnect the data center.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

And so they're trying to have their energy cake and eat it too by connecting these large buyers, but saying, it's okay, don't worry consumers, because we have a provision in our agreement with these data centers