Paul Mecurio

Here we go. Here we go. Okay. It went that way. By the way, when you were at the Department of Energy, when you left your office at night, would you turn the thermostat down? I'm just curious. Okay, good.

Here we go. Here we go. Okay. It went that way. By the way, when you were at the Department of Energy, when you left your office at night, would you turn the thermostat down? I'm just curious. Okay, good.

And the issue there is in sort of these data centers, which are going to are and will continue to be everywhere, and the scaling of traditional power plants, nuclear power plants, you have to get to SMRs, right, which are not fully developed yet. Paul, could you tell the rest of us what SMR means? Small modular reactors. Did he get it right, Catherine?

And the issue there is in sort of these data centers, which are going to are and will continue to be everywhere, and the scaling of traditional power plants, nuclear power plants, you have to get to SMRs, right, which are not fully developed yet. Paul, could you tell the rest of us what SMR means? Small modular reactors. Did he get it right, Catherine?

Catherine, do you know how exhausting it is that I have to carry this guy all the time? But in that sense, the proximity is an issue, right? Because if your data centers are too far away from the source, the nuclear source of energy, you're going to have loss of data, loss of energy.

Catherine, do you know how exhausting it is that I have to carry this guy all the time? But in that sense, the proximity is an issue, right? Because if your data centers are too far away from the source, the nuclear source of energy, you're going to have loss of data, loss of energy.

And so it becomes sort of being able to build a lot of these SMRs, which are smaller and can be closer to the data centers.

And so it becomes sort of being able to build a lot of these SMRs, which are smaller and can be closer to the data centers.

MSRs? Yeah.

MSRs? Yeah.

Isn't there a practicality issue, though, because corrosion is a problem with that process, right?

Isn't there a practicality issue, though, because corrosion is a problem with that process, right?

Well, with temperatures that high, can't you generate electricity that is more robust, for lack of a better term, and that can travel farther distances without loss?

Well, with temperatures that high, can't you generate electricity that is more robust, for lack of a better term, and that can travel farther distances without loss?

But isn't the issue here partly like there's two streams of technology battling each other? In other words, demand for energy, right? Like in the year 2060, there's gonna be 12,230 streaming services alone, right? Okay, you're gonna have house plants that self-water, self-fertilize and can talk to you, right? I hope so. Can we, in all seriousness, can you keep up with that

But isn't the issue here partly like there's two streams of technology battling each other? In other words, demand for energy, right? Like in the year 2060, there's gonna be 12,230 streaming services alone, right? Okay, you're gonna have house plants that self-water, self-fertilize and can talk to you, right? I hope so. Can we, in all seriousness, can you keep up with that

with these lazy fusion people that clearly aren't pushing the envelope and just are phoning it in. No, in all seriousness, so can we develop energies fast enough to keep up with these incredible demands that are- But we have become more efficient.

with these lazy fusion people that clearly aren't pushing the envelope and just are phoning it in. No, in all seriousness, so can we develop energies fast enough to keep up with these incredible demands that are- But we have become more efficient.

But the advance is, I mean, there are guilt-inducing mirrors that are going to come out soon where you just stand in front of it and say, really, that's what you want to eat? Like, so, I seem to hit a nerve with you on that one. So... Or are you talking about your own life?

But the advance is, I mean, there are guilt-inducing mirrors that are going to come out soon where you just stand in front of it and say, really, that's what you want to eat? Like, so, I seem to hit a nerve with you on that one. So... Or are you talking about your own life?