Paul Peterson

I would call myself, if not a brand steward, an intrapreneur, right?

I'm running a separate business unit within a company and we're lean, but we are very profitable.

Are you working for the founder inside of Goldmine?

Avanti is a very large...

enterprise it's a combination of land desk and a few other entities that are focused on it security networks remote users so that's uh but part of a gold mine was founded in 1988 and i started in 1999 so think about what the technology looked like it was before al gore had invented the internet and things like that so i've been with them 22 years uh the founder sold out and um

And he's running another product called Nimble right now.

So I'm sort of the caretaker or steward, as it were, of Goldmine over the years.

Yeah, exactly.

He was Goldmine's Ferrara with Alon.

So he was leading Goldmine before you came in?

That's right.

So I came in as a regional manager.

I worked for Symantec selling antivirus software when people thought it was optional, fun.

WinFax, I don't know, you're probably too young to remember when faxing was a big deal out of the computers.

And so we had OEM.

And so I got the goldmine because I was a good salesperson at taking package software, WinFax, Symantec, and selling it to large corporations.

And

That's great.

Help me understand how you're competing in the space.

Well, so it's a little bit of a legacy that we...