Paul Peterson

inherited the perpetual license and Windows on-premise.

It was Goldmine, ACT, and Maximizer.

Then Siebel came along, and then later on, Salesforce came about.

We stuck with our architecture, Windows-based, and we do things a little bit differently.

We didn't expand to do everything.

Salesforce, Sugar, Microsoft, you can find every bell and whistle.

You have Architectural.

But with that comes some complexity.

So we kind of, what they call stick to the knitting, that we were liked by individuals for productivity.

And so we stuck with that over the years.

And that said, be available on their PCs, not in the cloud.

And a lot of our audience likes to own the data.

They like to own the software.

So I'd say we're a niche product today.

We're not, Salesforce is probably the leading go-to, but

But we have a niche product where people want that.

And it takes advantage of some of the windows.

Multiple windows can be open.

It's very fast when it's running on your local system.

So when you said we were charging a one-time fee, so it's a one-time fee.