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Pavan Joshi

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Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

In the most basic sense, transshipping is like commercial air travel, says Pavan Joshi, chief strategy officer at the supply chain platform E2Open.

Marketplace All-in-One
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

If we have a direct flight, we'll take that.

Marketplace All-in-One
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

But if we don't have a direct flight...

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

Or if we want to save some money, we connect through an airport.

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

This practice of transshipping, goods stopping for a layover before they come to the U.S., is almost as old as global trade itself.

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

But Ibahi Ioha, a professor of business administration at Harvard, says there's been an uptick in transshipping with tariffs.

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

That creates an incentive to pretend that goods made in China were really made somewhere else.

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

Pretending is very much illegal, but companies get away with it because customs fraud cases are complex to prove.

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

Ioha says there's also a legal way to use transshipping to avoid tariffs.

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

I might import a finished good from a different country, bundle it with something else that I'm producing, and then sell them together.

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

A manufacturer might ship components from China and assemble them in Vietnam before importing the product to the U.S.

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

Julie Niederhoff, a professor of supply chain management at Syracuse University, says in that case, the company could claim Vietnam as its country of origin and avoid Chinese tariffs if the product has undergone a, quote, substantial transformation.

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

Problem is... There's no clear definition on how we define and...

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

Trade law would have to define what that means for every product, from bikes to furniture to construction equipment.

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

And experts say as long as the rules are murky, and as long as we have different import taxes for different countries, transshipping is a part of the supply chain.

Marketplace
How to dodge tariffs on Chinese goods

I'm Kristen Schwab for Marketplace.