Pavel Durov

And it's not that difficult to do that.

You have to just remain consistent because nobody else is trying to do that.

Everybody else is just reading the same news and discussing the same news every day.

But this way they don't get to have a competitive advantage.

I don't think a phone is a necessary device.

I remember growing up, I didn't have a mobile phone.

When I was a student at the university, I didn't have a mobile phone.

When I finally got it to use a mobile phone, I never used phone calls.

I was always in airplane mode or mute.

I hated the idea of being disturbed.

I want to define what

is important in my life.

I don't want other people or companies, all kinds of organizations telling me what is important today and what I should be thinking about.

Just set up your own agenda and the phone gets in your way.

Yes, because this way I can contribute to the progress of society, or at least I like to think this way.

And this makes me happier.

Yes.

So the thing I'm trying to do, I try to allocate as much time as possible

for sleep.

Now, even if I allocate, say, 11 or 12 hours for sleep, I won't sleep for 11 or 12 hours.