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Pavel Durov

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1770 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

So as a result, we would not just select the best person and hire this person.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

We would also select the best solution to the problem because we would not suggest the contestants to solve trivial problems.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

It's something that's valuable.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

It saves a lot of time for us in terms of development.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

And because I always had this large social media platforms which I could use to promote these competitions.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

Right.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

Somehow both VK and Telegram were very popular among engineers and designers, other tech people.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

I had no issue to find, to promote this contest and find the right people ever.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

And

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

What can be better than for an employee of your company, of somebody who has been a user of it?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

If this person has no prior experience of using Telegram, their understanding would be very limited.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

Why would I even try to hire somebody from LinkedIn who worked at Google and other companies, is used to receiving salary for nothing?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

is used to shift responsibility and being stuck in endless meetings and have very limited understanding of what Telegram stands for.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

It's just crazy if you think about it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

We implemented it in 2013 in the secret chats.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

The funny thing about it is then when other apps started to copy it, like WhatsApp seven years after, and then Signal and some other of these apps, they initially even copied the exact timestamps.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

So, for example, if we had like one, three, and five seconds, they would also have one, three, and five seconds.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

They tried not to change it because they were not sure what was the magic sauce behind it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

And ironically, it happens with many of these things.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

For example, when we designed how you reply to a message and you have a small snippet showing that you're replying to this message and now you're typing your response.