Peaches

But if we, you know, sometimes I would go on themes or if I would go on classic stories, we would act out all the characters, but then they would get to choose.

So for instance, if we did Peter Pan and everybody wanted to be Captain Hook and there was one Wendy,

I wasn't going to be like, no, no, no, we have to have people.

It was just whatever.

Then we'd make up a story about it because that's what they wanted.

And I wanted to do it in that way because when I grew up, I felt like I wasn't given the chance to be creative in creative situations.

It was always like,

I would want to be in a school play and they'd point to you.

And I remember they were doing some, not at my school, but like an afterschool program.

And they turned to me and said, okay, you're going to be a bat.

And you just sit here and flap your wings.

And I was like, I don't want to be a bat.

I want to sing.

I want to, you know, so there was always like roles given.

So it wasn't really an understanding of creativity or process.

And it was always about the performance for the parents.

So this program that I developed at the YMCA, the parents were not invited.

It was just about the kids developing.

And I went on to work at all the YMCAs in the vicinity.

So like nine YMCAs.