Peadar Tobin

And another thing, this year there's been two cases that have been brought to court.

There's been two convictions for coercive abortions where...

The male partner forced the women in the situation to actually have an abortion.

And those individuals have had sentences as a result.

And it's harder to actually assess whether there is coercion in this situation if you're talking about giving the abortion pill on the first consultation.

Well, I think the analysis is correct here.

I think this is more about inter-party competition in relation on the issue of Worsham than anything else.

It's ideological.

It's not based on evidence.

It's about more access.

No, because, for example, there's been 133 court cases against the state in relation to adverse incidents by women in this country in abortion in the last while.

None of those are being looked at.

And I'll give an example.

Baby Christopher, for example, was aborted at 16 weeks old.

gestation.

The doctors told his parents that he had a fetal abnormality.

He didn't.

There's one geneticist in this country.

They're operating on interim guidelines.

None of the opposition parties are saying this is what needs to be reformed to fix this.