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Peter Attia, M.D.

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The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Yeah, the testosterone at this point is the determining factor.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Determining what?

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Muscle mass, body hair, things like that.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Although that's also an easy experiment to do.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

You could imagine giving a male a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor from birth.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Like as a thought experiment.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Yeah.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

If you took a normal, chromosomally, phenotypically normal male, and from the time they were, call it five years old, you just gave them 5-alpha reductase inhibitor.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

All you're doing is turning their DHT down to zero and doing nothing else.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

You're basically asking the question, will they develop normal musculature?

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

How did they get an IRB for that?

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Yeah.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Interesting.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Okay.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

So you and I are probably the only ones at this point, this excited about this discussion because we're now so far down the weeds of embryology, but bringing it back to the surface, the takeaway here is that XXXY start out for about five weeks, indistinguishable at about that five week mark.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

a gene on the Y chromosome specifically begins to trigger the differentiation pattern.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

That differentiation pattern triggers the transcription of genes that turn on hormones that are going to further activate and drive sex differentiation.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

But if that were true, it must be more complicated or else you wouldn't have Turner syndrome.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Which we can define for folks as single X chromosome, which presumably they got from mom and then they didn't get a chromosome from dad.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Or do we know that?