#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
But the reality of it is we're all sort of bodybuilders.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
everybody's a bodybuilder if they're really thinking about it in the lens of, what are we on this earth for?
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
We're on this earth to create the most robust body we can have, and it doesn't have to look like it's bulging with muscles.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
First of all, most of us couldn't achieve that if we wanted to, notwithstanding the fact that most of us could never achieve it anyway.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
Let's think through who should be consuming the RDA.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
I think it's really important for people to understand that this argument around the RDA is adequate and that's what you need to eat.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
And anybody who is suggesting you eat more than that is wrong.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
We have to actually flip the question and say, okay, who is best served by eating at the RDA versus say 2X the RDA at 1.6 grams, which for me would put me at 150 to 160 grams of protein per day instead of 60.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
Yeah, we'll link to them all in the show notes here so that people can kind of
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
I don't want to make this a discussion where we're plowing through papers because that's already been done and we'll link to all those things.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
But yes, I'll make sure that everyone goes back to them.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
So feel free to reference specific ones so they'll have access to them immediately.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
I was on part of that thread, David, and wasn't there one paper that did surface that was a TPN trial, total parenteral nutrition, in patients in the ICU?
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
Yes, I'm working my hardest to give an honest look, because I think what you did is the right thing to do, which is, look, guys.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
We're having religious debates on social media where people are using their Twitter platforms to like lambast people they disagree with and call them names and do all this sort of nasty stuff.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
Why don't we just do this like grownups and show me the data?
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
And so the data is show me human clinical trial intervention studies that demonstrate the deleterious effects of quote unquote high protein drugs.
#368 ‒ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.
And yeah, the only thing that I saw was you took these patients who were very, very sick in the ICU, so sick that they can't consume enteral nutrition, which means they can't eat because they're probably ventilated and their guts aren't even working.