Peter Attia

So like dried fruit is processed.

Sure.

Virtually everything we eat is processed.

Yeah.

Almost everything you eat is processed.

But how do you then cross the chasm to ultra-processed?

So processing is good.

Now let's talk about the state of the evidence, because again, a good story goes a long way.

I mean, our ancestors, and to be clear, my view on this is that the story is much more nuanced than the one I'm about to lay out.

But the one I'm about to lay out makes sense, and I get it.

We didn't evolve eating ultra-processed foods, let alone processed foods.

And ultra-processed foods are engineered

to be highly palatable.

And part of that engineering process also makes them calorie dense, because part of making things hyperpalatable is putting in a lot of sugar and a lot of fat.

So it's not that the food companies who make these things are trying to make us fat.

They're not trying to hurt us.

Marlboro's not trying to hurt you with cigarettes.

They just want you to smoke them forever.

It's an unfortunate consequence of the product.

So they really want to create something that tastes remarkable that you just want to keep buying over and over again.