Peter Attia

So it's two flips.

But why does this matter chemically?

I think the point I want to make to people is when you have a D and an L of something, do they behave the same?

And is that just because it sticks around longer and therefore crosses the blood-brain barrier or in the case of the brain?

Right.

But if you just take the total metabolism of it, are you saying one mole of one and one mole of the other produce a different amount of ATP?

This is when you were saying that Veach's initial compound was your first attempt and it didn't work.

What do you make of the fact that there hasn't been any efficacy of NAD supplementation or even NAD precursors?

NR and NMN have really not yielded any meaningful or measurable benefits.

The only thing I've ever seen that looked somewhat positive was in the trial that looked at patients with ALS.

And you saw a slightly shorter time to ventilator use with an NR formulation.

Yeah.

But really, we just haven't seen any benefits.

And so what do you attribute that to with respect to the NAD story?

And what do you think might be missing if indeed there's efficacy there?

So you think it's a delivery problem?

Will there be other applications for a DOM, such as the holy grail of Giro protection, or even just performance enhancement, physical performance enhancement?

Yes.

I feel like the buzz over NAD has largely died, actually.

I feel like it's sort of under-delivered and most people aren't really talking about it anymore.