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Peter Attia

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

succumbing to an eight-year-old's gambit, which is tougher.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

No, but maybe I will just remind people or for folks who are new to the program, what these categories mean.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

So you mentioned five and we're starting from the most promising or the closest to quote unquote truth, which we're calling proven.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

Although I put proven in quotes because technically nothing in biology is proven, right?

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

It's not like mathematics where you prove something and write QED at the end and never have to think about it again.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

So proven would be as close to well-established claim as you're going to find.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

The implication for us, of course, is you've got lots of high quality consistent data.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

The category beneath that would be promising.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

This is a category where the claims look good.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

There are data to support it, but maybe we're still waiting on replication or maybe most of the data are moving in one direction, but not all of it or something like that.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

Category beneath that we call fuzzy.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

And this means there are some data around the claim, but they are really inconsistent and incomplete.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

So overall, you would say the data quality here is not that great, but there's probably a signal.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

Beneath that, we have noise.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

So here we have something where there are just frankly no real meaningful results.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

So noise is something that it's not that I'm saying you shouldn't pay attention to it, but you clearly don't want to be distracted by it.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

And it's best to wait and see if noise declares itself by going up to fuzzy or

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

with the presence of some data as it works its way up the chain or whether data actually emerge that put it in the final category, which is actual nonsense.

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

So again, nonsense means we actually have data and the data refute the claim being made

The Peter Attia Drive
#370 - AMA #76: Peter evaluates longevity drugs, aspirin for CVD, and strategies to improve muscle mass โ€” promising, proven, fuzzy, noise, or nonsense?

So as far as we can tell, this is as close to disproven as you'll be.