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Peter Attia

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The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But it requires a ton of deliberate attention.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So I'm glad you brought it up.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

This is exactly the group of people who you want to be using easy to digest protein sources.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And if you're on Terzepatide, you don't really want to stake.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

You don't really want to have a big chicken breast.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

You might not want to even have an omelet.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But if we have to make sure you're hitting that 1.6, you might be doing a bunch of liquid shakes.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And yeah, we can sit here and poo-poo processed food and say, how disgusting is it that people have to resort to eating shakes?

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Okay, fine.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But if the alternative is they're not getting enough protein and they're on a drug that is making them anorexic, we also know the downside of that.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

My point is we do DEXA before and after.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

We're not seeing the type of muscle loss we saw with our V1 approach to this.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

No, I mean, I think for, triseptide starts at 2.5.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Some people are getting enough benefit there.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I mean, the other thing that I think our approach has been is that slow and steady wins the race.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So we've seen anecdotally some data I've heard from others, and we've seen it as well, that

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

yo-yoing on and off these drugs is probably a bad idea.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So I always tell a patient, look, I'd probably rather you were on 2.5 milligrams until there was a new drug that we felt was even better than you're on 10 milligrams, you lose a ton of weight, you come off, you gain, you go back on, you lose.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

The idea of being on a saw is probably a bad idea.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I think the data suggests you're getting most of the value by about 10 milligrams.