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Peter Attia

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The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So caloric restriction as an intervention, as a zero protective intervention is the oldest one in the book.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I'm not really aware of an intervention where a non-genetic intervention that has from a longer standing perspective produced a more consistent outcome in terms of laboratory animals, where you restrict them to calories and they're going to live longer.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So again, to my knowledge, there are only two interventions that have extended life across all four models of organisms from yeast, worms, flies, and mammals, rodents.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And that is caloric restriction and rapamycin.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And they have something in common, which is they both result in the downregulation of mTOR.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So we also know that an amino acid you just mentioned a moment ago called leucine is the single most important of all the amino acids at turning up mTOR.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So how can we reconcile the idea that protein seems to be good for you

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But mTOR going down seems to be good for you, at least in another way.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Well, for one... I'm being very facetious because you know I know the answer to this question.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

They're not under threat.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Perfectly thermoregulated.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I think that's such an important point, Rana, that I would even go one step further, which is if you told me come up with the optimal nutrition strategy for the individual who is active and then come up with the optimal nutrition strategy for a person who is going to be sedentary, they would be very different.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I'm going to try to talk that sedentary person into not being sedentary.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But if at the end of the day, I can't, if that individual says, I don't want to do anything.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I just want to sit in front of my computer.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

You know what?

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

It probably makes sense to be a little bit caloric restricted because I can't solve your metabolic challenge through activity.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But what if I could at least solve it through nutrition restriction?

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Again, I think it's the inability of people to understand that those are very different states.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

You cannot treat those two people the same way.