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Peter Attia

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Maybe if you're Mr. Olympia, you can sacrifice muscle mass.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But for you and me, and I think everybody listening to us, giving up muscle mass because we are falling short on our protein intake would be a strategic error and an unforced error.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Multiple studies, okay, multiple studies, as you know, have shown... And we'll link to these in the show notes, by the way, just so that people can go and actually look at the papers as opposed to reading about it on social media.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

50% more.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So here's an interesting question, Rhonda.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So we know the rates at which muscle mass, skeletal mass are declining by decade in an aging population.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Is there any way we can estimate?

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I'm guessing the answer is no, but on the off chance you would know.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So anyway, we can estimate what percent of that decay is simply being driven by insufficient amino acid consumption versus other factors.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Other factors would be anabolic resistance associated with aging.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Other factors would be anabolic resistance associated with sedentary behavior.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Other factors would be lack of sufficient resistance training.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

There are many factors that explain clearly the fact that as a person goes from 50 to 60 to 70, on average, they're losing muscle mass.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But it would be interesting to consider how much of that is explained by the fact that they are also barely skirting the minimum amount of nitrogen that they need, and in many cases, falling below it.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So step one is we should move the floor from 0.8 to 1.2.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Yeah.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And the experiment that Luc Van Loon shared when he was on the podcast, I think was a very elegant way to do this, which is they took young subjects.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I don't remember if they were in their 20s, but it was thereabouts, maybe in their 30s.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So very young subjects.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And they put a cast on one leg, no cast on the other.