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Peter Attia

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The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

All right.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Well, there's a lot we want to chat about today.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And I'm a little hesitant to say this, but I do feel like reluctantly we need to have one more discussion about a particular macronutrient that seems to get a lot of attention lately.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And I don't necessarily want to talk about this because I think it's especially interesting or even to which there's some new study that we need to shed light on.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But it does seem to remain somewhat surrounded in some controversy, which I will refrain from publicly speculating on why said controversy exists.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Although privately, I'm very happy to speculate on all the reasons for it.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So with that said, let's talk about protein.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And we lose nitrogen through other means that is not just urine.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I just want to state that again, because I do think there's a very important and fundamental point here that is glossed over when we talk about it, because we take it for granted.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Like if we studied biochemistry and anybody who's studied biochemistry will know this, but we can store fat in unlimited quantities.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So if you deprive a person of fat calories for a period of time, they have a long reservoir that they can dig into.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Not indefinitely, but they can.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

We can store carbohydrates.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Now, we can't store them quite as much because we only have so much glycogen we can store in the muscle and in the liver.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But when we break down fat, we keep making the substrate to actually make glucose, so we get into a nice little rhythm.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But to your point, the only place that an amino acid sits in residence in our body is in the muscle.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Therefore, if we even get near the edge where we are not getting sufficient intake of amino acids, we don't have a buffer.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

We don't have a rainy day fund that we can dip into.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

We immediately start to catabolize or break down muscle.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Now, I don't think we have to make the case that that's a bad idea, but for the sake of completeness, we should state there is not really a single scenario I can think of that is clinically relevant where it would be desirable to give up muscle mass.