Peter Berg

It gets nasty.

Did we send you the shows? You sent them to me. All right, good. We'll sit down and take a peek. The organizing event is worth anybody checking out. It's a very underreported mass murder, arguably the first mass killing in American history. that was called the Mormon Meadows Massacre. And it happened in 1857.

Did we send you the shows? You sent them to me. All right, good. We'll sit down and take a peek. The organizing event is worth anybody checking out. It's a very underreported mass murder, arguably the first mass killing in American history. that was called the Mormon Meadows Massacre. And it happened in 1857.

Did we send you the shows? You sent them to me. All right, good. We'll sit down and take a peek. The organizing event is worth anybody checking out. It's a very underreported mass murder, arguably the first mass killing in American history. that was called the Mormon Meadows Massacre. And it happened in 1857.

And a group of pioneers called the Fancher Party that were going from Arkansas to California had to move through Mormon land, Utah land, to get to California. But in 1857, the Mormons had basically issued a proclamation saying that no one can come through our land without a permit from Governor Brigham Young.

And a group of pioneers called the Fancher Party that were going from Arkansas to California had to move through Mormon land, Utah land, to get to California. But in 1857, the Mormons had basically issued a proclamation saying that no one can come through our land without a permit from Governor Brigham Young.

And a group of pioneers called the Fancher Party that were going from Arkansas to California had to move through Mormon land, Utah land, to get to California. But in 1857, the Mormons had basically issued a proclamation saying that no one can come through our land without a permit from Governor Brigham Young.

And they'd done this because they were getting so disrespected by the pioneers who would come through and be like, hey, bro, can I have some of your wives? Or maybe I'll just take one of your wives. And they'd steal women. Mormons were polygamists, and they all had 10 or 15 wives, which was problematic. But these pioneers would come through and harass the Mormons, rape women, kill cattle.

And they'd done this because they were getting so disrespected by the pioneers who would come through and be like, hey, bro, can I have some of your wives? Or maybe I'll just take one of your wives. And they'd steal women. Mormons were polygamists, and they all had 10 or 15 wives, which was problematic. But these pioneers would come through and harass the Mormons, rape women, kill cattle.

And they'd done this because they were getting so disrespected by the pioneers who would come through and be like, hey, bro, can I have some of your wives? Or maybe I'll just take one of your wives. And they'd steal women. Mormons were polygamists, and they all had 10 or 15 wives, which was problematic. But these pioneers would come through and harass the Mormons, rape women, kill cattle.

They'd let their cattle graze on the Mormons' crops. So there was all this mutual disrespect. So by the time this party came through without a permit, the Mormons warned them off and said, you got to go back. You got to go around, which would add like two weeks to the journey. And these pioneers were like, fuck you, we're not going around. So the Mormons came back and killed all of them.

They'd let their cattle graze on the Mormons' crops. So there was all this mutual disrespect. So by the time this party came through without a permit, the Mormons warned them off and said, you got to go back. You got to go around, which would add like two weeks to the journey. And these pioneers were like, fuck you, we're not going around. So the Mormons came back and killed all of them.

They'd let their cattle graze on the Mormons' crops. So there was all this mutual disrespect. So by the time this party came through without a permit, the Mormons warned them off and said, you got to go back. You got to go around, which would add like two weeks to the journey. And these pioneers were like, fuck you, we're not going around. So the Mormons came back and killed all of them.

So a group of Mormons, and what was kind of fucked up is they dressed up as Paiute, which was a tribe out there, Indians. They dressed up as the Indians and actually brought a couple of Indians with them so that any witnesses would think it was an Indian murder. Damn. And it was really a Mormon murder. It was a killing done by Mormons.

So a group of Mormons, and what was kind of fucked up is they dressed up as Paiute, which was a tribe out there, Indians. They dressed up as the Indians and actually brought a couple of Indians with them so that any witnesses would think it was an Indian murder. Damn. And it was really a Mormon murder. It was a killing done by Mormons.

So a group of Mormons, and what was kind of fucked up is they dressed up as Paiute, which was a tribe out there, Indians. They dressed up as the Indians and actually brought a couple of Indians with them so that any witnesses would think it was an Indian murder. Damn. And it was really a Mormon murder. It was a killing done by Mormons.

And they killed about 165 of these pioneers, men, women, and children. And really horrific moment in the history of the Mormon church. And it's a horrible moment in general. And that's kind of what we use as like the inciting incident is what we call it. Where, you know, the moment it kicks something off. So the show's kind of going along and you don't realize it's going to hit you.

And they killed about 165 of these pioneers, men, women, and children. And really horrific moment in the history of the Mormon church. And it's a horrible moment in general. And that's kind of what we use as like the inciting incident is what we call it. Where, you know, the moment it kicks something off. So the show's kind of going along and you don't realize it's going to hit you.

And they killed about 165 of these pioneers, men, women, and children. And really horrific moment in the history of the Mormon church. And it's a horrible moment in general. And that's kind of what we use as like the inciting incident is what we call it. Where, you know, the moment it kicks something off. So the show's kind of going along and you don't realize it's going to hit you.

And then the Mormon's mental massacre kind of... comes at you hard, and that's the event. And so it was interesting, like, going to Utah, meeting the different Mormons that were historians of this moment in time, and getting them to talk about it, because it's a dark moment in Mormon history, which I never knew about until... You got them to talk about it? Yeah, and there was one guy...