Peter Berg

And then the Mormon's mental massacre kind of... comes at you hard, and that's the event. And so it was interesting, like, going to Utah, meeting the different Mormons that were historians of this moment in time, and getting them to talk about it, because it's a dark moment in Mormon history, which I never knew about until... You got them to talk about it? Yeah, and there was one guy...

And then the Mormon's mental massacre kind of... comes at you hard, and that's the event. And so it was interesting, like, going to Utah, meeting the different Mormons that were historians of this moment in time, and getting them to talk about it, because it's a dark moment in Mormon history, which I never knew about until... You got them to talk about it? Yeah, and there was one guy...

One Mormon wrote a book called The Meadows Massacre, and he took me to the site. And he wrote it because there's a monument in Utah now where the massacre took place, and the Mormons built the monument to all the folks that were killed. And his book, it's really interesting because it's about this crime, this horrible moment in Mormon history.

One Mormon wrote a book called The Meadows Massacre, and he took me to the site. And he wrote it because there's a monument in Utah now where the massacre took place, and the Mormons built the monument to all the folks that were killed. And his book, it's really interesting because it's about this crime, this horrible moment in Mormon history.

One Mormon wrote a book called The Meadows Massacre, and he took me to the site. And he wrote it because there's a monument in Utah now where the massacre took place, and the Mormons built the monument to all the folks that were killed. And his book, it's really interesting because it's about this crime, this horrible moment in Mormon history.

And what he does in the book and what he said to me was, okay, As a Mormon, if you want to show this moment in our history, you have every right to do it. It happened. But I would ask you to read my book and do your research and at least understand how it got to that point, right?

And what he does in the book and what he said to me was, okay, As a Mormon, if you want to show this moment in our history, you have every right to do it. It happened. But I would ask you to read my book and do your research and at least understand how it got to that point, right?

And what he does in the book and what he said to me was, okay, As a Mormon, if you want to show this moment in our history, you have every right to do it. It happened. But I would ask you to read my book and do your research and at least understand how it got to that point, right?

Because, you know, like any moment of violence, if you backtrack it and think, well, which is kind of what's so tricky about the Israel situation, well, you can't unpack it and get to the roots very hard. In the case of the Meadows Massacre, what the book did well is it sort of let you understand how things got so tense that this 145-person massacre could occur.

Because, you know, like any moment of violence, if you backtrack it and think, well, which is kind of what's so tricky about the Israel situation, well, you can't unpack it and get to the roots very hard. In the case of the Meadows Massacre, what the book did well is it sort of let you understand how things got so tense that this 145-person massacre could occur.

Because, you know, like any moment of violence, if you backtrack it and think, well, which is kind of what's so tricky about the Israel situation, well, you can't unpack it and get to the roots very hard. In the case of the Meadows Massacre, what the book did well is it sort of let you understand how things got so tense that this 145-person massacre could occur.

And I thought that was really kind of interesting. And in learning about that, And learning about American history and the continual line of violence that's plagued our planet, but certainly plagued our country. You start to understand man and our human nature and why we're so inclined to violence. And that's sort of a theme of the show.

And I thought that was really kind of interesting. And in learning about that, And learning about American history and the continual line of violence that's plagued our planet, but certainly plagued our country. You start to understand man and our human nature and why we're so inclined to violence. And that's sort of a theme of the show.

And I thought that was really kind of interesting. And in learning about that, And learning about American history and the continual line of violence that's plagued our planet, but certainly plagued our country. You start to understand man and our human nature and why we're so inclined to violence. And that's sort of a theme of the show.

One thing so interesting that saved the Mormon church, arguably, is that in 1857, the army was ready to come in big numbers and just fucking kill the Mormons. And that would have been no Mormon church. There'd be no BYU. There'd be no Salt Lake City, as we know. It would have been over. And that would have been a great act of violence.

One thing so interesting that saved the Mormon church, arguably, is that in 1857, the army was ready to come in big numbers and just fucking kill the Mormons. And that would have been no Mormon church. There'd be no BYU. There'd be no Salt Lake City, as we know. It would have been over. And that would have been a great act of violence.

One thing so interesting that saved the Mormon church, arguably, is that in 1857, the army was ready to come in big numbers and just fucking kill the Mormons. And that would have been no Mormon church. There'd be no BYU. There'd be no Salt Lake City, as we know. It would have been over. And that would have been a great act of violence.

But the Civil War was just popping off at that moment in 1857, 1858. So Buchanan and then Lincoln had to pull all the troops away from Brigham Young. And they were about to fucking get him, right? Civil War, ah, we need these troops back east. No shit. And that saved Brigham Young. The Civil War saved the Mormon church. Wow, I had no idea. Interesting.

But the Civil War was just popping off at that moment in 1857, 1858. So Buchanan and then Lincoln had to pull all the troops away from Brigham Young. And they were about to fucking get him, right? Civil War, ah, we need these troops back east. No shit. And that saved Brigham Young. The Civil War saved the Mormon church. Wow, I had no idea. Interesting.

But the Civil War was just popping off at that moment in 1857, 1858. So Buchanan and then Lincoln had to pull all the troops away from Brigham Young. And they were about to fucking get him, right? Civil War, ah, we need these troops back east. No shit. And that saved Brigham Young. The Civil War saved the Mormon church. Wow, I had no idea. Interesting.