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Peter Friedman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
268 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

the people all working out of their homes across the US.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

40 something states.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

It doesn't make any sense.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

But the company, even if you looked at it as just a services company, it would typically be valued at two or three times revenue and 20 times earnings.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

And right now we're losing money, but typically it's 10 or 15% profit.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

Oh, a million dollars a year, something like that.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

We built up a whole bunch and we're doing some strategic investments.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

But we can switch it back to profitable anytime we want.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

Unlike typical social media startups, they're kind of on the concept.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

They'll get volume, and most of them have to exit by getting sold or something like that.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

This is a real company.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

So that would be its valuation.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

I'd make it 10 or 20.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

Now, the software part of our business, if it was typical and not the history, probably tens and tens of millions.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

But

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

The irony is, even though we have a proven business model and we survived where nobody else did, in the course of doing that, we kind of went into the backwater and as new phases came, because everybody went out of business, and then it all came back in 2005, 2006, and then it all went out of business and then came back.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

So it's that world of venture capital, financing and funding and all that, we're just not there because we're here and we exist.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

And the track record of existing gives me extraordinary respect

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

from people who know us across the industry, but it doesn't fit the capital models that drive those valuations.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
905 Went Public, $650m Market Cap, Crashed, Now $10m ARR But Only $1.8m Market Cap, Why?

We've proven we are the best at last man standing, delivering value and enough that our customers will pay us more than it costs us to do it.