Peter Hotez

You know, I'm trying to find ways to—

creates some paths to move on.

Because I think too often what you're seeing from the academic health centers is too much happy talk in the sense that, hey, don't worry, hunker down.

Everything's going to go back to the way it is in a couple of years.

And this is just a temporary glitch.

And I don't feel that way.

I think this feels to me more enduring.

And so I think it's a matter of not hunkering down, but leaning in, but in productive ways.

Waves and find new paths.

Yeah.

So one of the last five, the last of the five Ps is the press.

And you're right.

I mean, it's relatively easy to throw stones at the Murdoch media empire and what Fox did during the Delta wave to convince Americans not to get vaccinated.

And

200,000 Americans died because they refused COVID vaccines.

And, you know, in their zeal to push back against vaccine mandates, which I didn't agree with, but I could understand, they unfortunately went the next step and falsely discredited the effectiveness and safety of vaccine.

We document how Fox News did this.

Every night during the Delta wave and 200,000 Americans lost their lives or what.

And then Michael documents what Fox News did, you know, to climate science and also News Corp in the Wall Street Journal opinion section that op ed you mentioned was in the Wall Street Journal, which is Murdoch owned and.

you know, we'll have herd immunity by April and this kind of nonsense.