Peter Jones

They have to get serious, and they need manuals to do this.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, it's more practical, because it's a way to examine your inner thought process.

In the way that the Ten Commandments, you know, have you coveted your neighbour's ox?

No, I didn't do that.

I have not created a graven image, so I'm all right.

No, exactly.

You can let yourself off the hook quite easily with the Ten Commandments.

But the seven deadly sins are a way to really get into your inner core.

And that's what I love about the system.

Because at its core, this is a way to examine your kind of

those tiny little awkward, half-formed thoughts.

I did kind of, when I made that coffee for my friend, and I was trying to impress him a little bit, I was trying to, you know, that kind of self-knowledge, self-awareness, like, am I doing these things for the wrong reasons sometimes?

Do I actually secretly want my friend not to get that job when he has the interview on Friday?

Because part of me is still jealous in some residual way

You know, obviously, no, the answer is no, for me.

Of course it is.

But, you know, there is that kind of, the seven daily sins are a doorway into thinking about these kind of tiny little ways that we, you know, these little ticks that we have, you know, these impulses, right at the bottom, I think, right at the core of our brains.

Completely.

They just take off exponentially after 1215.