Peter Jones

Eight buckets.

And these he called the eight generic thoughts.

Okay, so there were once, for Aragos, there were two things that we now call pride.

There's pride and vainglory.

Pride is kind of this ego, this inward thing.

Your self-esteem being too high or whatever.

And vainglory is boasting, basically.

So it's like bragging.

Yeah, and he also had two kind of sadness sins.

He had sloth and sadness.

Sloth, which he called Arcadia, which is lack of care.

And sadness, which is just total misery, despair.

Okay, so it's a great idea, and Navagrius practices it himself, but it's in the desert at that point.

There's a guy called John Cassian who comes to the desert, and he's been tasked with finding something to popularise.

He needs to preach to peasants in the French countryside, and he needs to make a book.

There's a timeline, come on, get people involved, get them engaged in thinking about reforming their lives, becoming more moral.

John Cassian goes to the desert and discovers a Vargas system and thinks, this is fantastic, this is dynamite.

But he thinks it needs a tweak, and it's just what you said at the beginning.

Generic thoughts, it's not so good, it's not so catchy.

Cassian calls them deadly sins.