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Peter McCrory

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

that it is jagged because it suggests that we can tease out some of these impacts along the way by comparing where these jagged adoption or jagged capabilities first materialize.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

In some sense, that's kind of the approach of the work that I alluded to before, the canaries in the coal mine or...

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

The folks at the Yale Budget Lab who've looked at this question from a different angle, but incorporating AI exposure.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

You can use these differences in exposure and adoption to try to tease out not just where we might expect effects to materialize, but like ultimately what those effects are.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And I think that is like a big question for the next year.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

The capability doesn't instantaneously deliver adoption.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

You need to identify new ways to deploy those capabilities in more accessible ways.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

I think Cloud Code is a good example here.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

where software engineers and developers and those who are very comfortable working at the command line interface were able to just like jump in and use it.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

But if you don't have that background, that is entirely inaccessible to you, even when what you can use cloud code for is actually like much more than for coding.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And that's kind of illustrates the value of cloud co-work, which is a much more accessible entry point for developers

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

Folks who may feel some trepidation with downloading cloud code or working with the command line interface, even though the underlying mechanics of this agentic technology are very similar.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And so you have this question of awareness.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

You need to identify what are those bottlenecks to user adoption versus business adoption.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And it relies both on capabilities as well as like product functionality.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And then also people need to, I mean, I don't think I fully appreciated what Cloud was capable of until I came to Anthropic.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

I hadn't been using frontier models in the same way that I have since I joined just six months ago.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

So it also requires experimenting and trying it out.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

I think I'd be surprised by a downside number.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

I mean, I think there's this open question of like, are markets currently pricing in the productivity?