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Peter S. Goodman

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248 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

They offer these assurances that the factory is only going to be so high.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

It's not going to be that big.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

And then meanwhile, because of the stunning demand for AI chips, suddenly it's going to be twice as high.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

It's going to be four times the footprint.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

And eventually these homeowners mass together and they successfully kill this problem.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

plant, or at least they force Amcor to go move to a different site.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

And I think this is a moment worth unpacking that on the one hand, if we're really serious about having computer chips made in the United States, we need a plant like Amcor's.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

On the other hand, these homeowners didn't sign up for some sort of national crusade to advance American manufacturing.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

Most of these people are retirees.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

They just want a peaceful place to live and enjoy watching the sunset and play golf.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

Right.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

So

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

It's worth coming back to this point that in Taiwan, these two groups would be separated by vast distances.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

It's uniquely in the American system, and some people would call these guys NIMBYs.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

Others would say...

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

It's absurd that government didn't plan this better so that there is no collision of interest.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

A bunch of retirees who want to look at cactuses should be able to do that at the same time that we're figuring out where else in this giant state of Arizona could there be a piece of land big enough to have this factory.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

Well, I think part of the complexity of this is that pretty much everybody at the table has a reasonable argument to make.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

We live in a democracy.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

People who buy homes in a planned community expecting that maybe a Starbucks will pop up.