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Peter S. Goodman

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248 total appearances

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The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

Computer chips are the brains of just about everything.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

The iPhone in your hand, the data centers that are getting built all over the place to make artificial intelligence work.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

They're going into our cars.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

They're going into our appliances.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

I mean, it's pretty hard to think about any manufactured product now that doesn't have some kind of computer chip.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

It's a big deal.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

I mean, it is the most palpable manifestation of this really, I think you can say national aspiration to build things in America again.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

But there are some complications.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

This company that's building these factories is not American.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

It's Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp., TSMC as it's known.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

It is a Taiwanese company.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

It is a very successful Taiwanese company.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

But it's also been an excruciating pain for TSMC to get this thing built.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

With American subsidies, with a whole political process designed to bring this about, it's still been slow, expensive, and difficult.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

And so it really raises the question, is this a triumph?

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

Is this the template for how we can do this going forward?

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

Or is this the cautionary tale?

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

Look, you have to go back...

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

to the pandemic, which was the great reveal that it's not such a great idea to concentrate nearly all of the production of vital things in single countries.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

So, you know, waking up and discovering that you really can't make a ventilator in the middle of a pandemic unless you import stuff from China.