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Peter S. Goodman

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248 total appearances

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The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

Where the pandemic was at its worst.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

Where the pandemic began, a country that not incidentally we decided to have a trade war with,

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

not a great way to reliably get the stuff you need.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

And computer chips, the most advanced ones, are made overwhelmingly in Taiwan.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

Taiwan is, of course, a self-governing island that is claimed as part of Chinese territory by the People's Republic of China and its government in Beijing, which means that, you know, there is the not-zero risk that on any given day,

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

the Chinese military could show up and take over, and that could be an enormous disruption to the computer chip supply.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

And we have to think about resilience.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

The way to think of it is we need some insurance.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

It's not that globalization is bad.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

It's that globalization without insurance against the risks that are an inevitable part of life, that's not so good.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

It looks like the government saying we're going to have to play a direct role in making sure that certain things are built in the United States, and that's going to require subsidies.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

So along comes the Biden administration, and the Biden administration breaks from doing

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

generations of free trade dogma, this idea that we just let the market sort out what gets built and where.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

And they say efficiency only takes us so far.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

The government's going to have to play a role in making sure that certain things like computer chips are built in the United States.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

And this becomes the Chips and Science Act.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

This landmark piece of legislation that's got tens of billions of dollars in subsidies given to companies that build computer chip factories in the United States.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

One of those companies, Taiwan Semiconductor, actually participates in the writing of this bill.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

Mm-hmm.

The Daily
The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

And that company, TSMC, ends up with a $6 billion plus grant to then build this complex of factories in Phoenix.