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Peter Thiel

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

Man, this is where I want to push back a little bit. Push away, man. I don't think you tell a two- or three-year-old this in the language of sacrifice. No, you probably act it out for them. It's if you don't take turns, something bad happens. You won't have friends. And you won't have friends. Or the other kids tell the kids that. Yeah, there's some very...

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

Man, this is where I want to push back a little bit. Push away, man. I don't think you tell a two- or three-year-old this in the language of sacrifice. No, you probably act it out for them. It's if you don't take turns, something bad happens. You won't have friends. And you won't have friends. Or the other kids tell the kids that. Yeah, there's some very...

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

Man, this is where I want to push back a little bit. Push away, man. I don't think you tell a two- or three-year-old this in the language of sacrifice. No, you probably act it out for them. It's if you don't take turns, something bad happens. You won't have friends. And you won't have friends. Or the other kids tell the kids that. Yeah, there's some very...

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

pretty fast, immediate consequences to it. And again, you don't say it's rational, but it's sort of, you learn pretty fast to do these things. And then the place where I'm uncomfortable with using the sort of language of sacrifice is that the evidence-based, non-rational part of it, if that's all we have left, I wonder whether those are the sacrifices that we should make.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

pretty fast, immediate consequences to it. And again, you don't say it's rational, but it's sort of, you learn pretty fast to do these things. And then the place where I'm uncomfortable with using the sort of language of sacrifice is that the evidence-based, non-rational part of it, if that's all we have left, I wonder whether those are the sacrifices that we should make.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

pretty fast, immediate consequences to it. And again, you don't say it's rational, but it's sort of, you learn pretty fast to do these things. And then the place where I'm uncomfortable with using the sort of language of sacrifice is that the evidence-based, non-rational part of it, if that's all we have left, I wonder whether those are the sacrifices that we should make.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

I'm going to give lots of examples, but there's always a question about what should be done about academia. All the conservative academics are being expelled. It's so hard to do this. And there's a version of a debate I've had with a lot of

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

I'm going to give lots of examples, but there's always a question about what should be done about academia. All the conservative academics are being expelled. It's so hard to do this. And there's a version of a debate I've had with a lot of

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

I'm going to give lots of examples, but there's always a question about what should be done about academia. All the conservative academics are being expelled. It's so hard to do this. And there's a version of a debate I've had with a lot of

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

right-of-center people over the last 20 years, where it's, well, we just, you know, we need to just train more people with PhDs, and then they have to keep trying to sneak into the system, and have to somehow break in. Yeah, right. And there's sort of a lot of reasons to think that it's hard to do or might not work, but

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

right-of-center people over the last 20 years, where it's, well, we just, you know, we need to just train more people with PhDs, and then they have to keep trying to sneak into the system, and have to somehow break in. Yeah, right. And there's sort of a lot of reasons to think that it's hard to do or might not work, but

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

right-of-center people over the last 20 years, where it's, well, we just, you know, we need to just train more people with PhDs, and then they have to keep trying to sneak into the system, and have to somehow break in. Yeah, right. And there's sort of a lot of reasons to think that it's hard to do or might not work, but

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

But the way I push back on it is it strikes me as an irrational kind of sacrifice. And so from the point of view of a young person who is going to be a right-wing academic with a PhD and will be completely unemployable, that's not a rational sacrifice they made. It's a very foolish choice that perhaps this language of sacrifice confused things.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

But the way I push back on it is it strikes me as an irrational kind of sacrifice. And so from the point of view of a young person who is going to be a right-wing academic with a PhD and will be completely unemployable, that's not a rational sacrifice they made. It's a very foolish choice that perhaps this language of sacrifice confused things.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

But the way I push back on it is it strikes me as an irrational kind of sacrifice. And so from the point of view of a young person who is going to be a right-wing academic with a PhD and will be completely unemployable, that's not a rational sacrifice they made. It's a very foolish choice that perhaps this language of sacrifice confused things.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And then the non-sacrificial move is roughly like what you yourself did with the University of Toronto, wherever you were, where it's, at some point, I am not putting up with these silly sacrifices they're making me make in academia. I'm not sacrificing or I'm not playing by all their silly rules. And I think that was the correct thing to do.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And then the non-sacrificial move is roughly like what you yourself did with the University of Toronto, wherever you were, where it's, at some point, I am not putting up with these silly sacrifices they're making me make in academia. I'm not sacrificing or I'm not playing by all their silly rules. And I think that was the correct thing to do.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And then the non-sacrificial move is roughly like what you yourself did with the University of Toronto, wherever you were, where it's, at some point, I am not putting up with these silly sacrifices they're making me make in academia. I'm not sacrificing or I'm not playing by all their silly rules. And I think that was the correct thing to do.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

But again, I would describe it as the anti-sacrificial move. The sacrificial move would be, you know, you have a tender position there and you might be unhappy about it, but you know, for the greater good, you have to stay there.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

But again, I would describe it as the anti-sacrificial move. The sacrificial move would be, you know, you have a tender position there and you might be unhappy about it, but you know, for the greater good, you have to stay there.