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Peter Thiel

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

He's not like some, I don't know, some sort of silly hero saying, you know, please let the lions come and eat me up or something like that, you know, giving some sort of dramatic announcement. It said, Christ at Gethsemane, you know, it's still praying, please let this cup be taken away from me. It is, so it is, it's not, you know, this is, you know, a wonderful, necessary thing to do at all.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

He's not like some, I don't know, some sort of silly hero saying, you know, please let the lions come and eat me up or something like that, you know, giving some sort of dramatic announcement. It said, Christ at Gethsemane, you know, it's still praying, please let this cup be taken away from me. It is, so it is, it's not, you know, this is, you know, a wonderful, necessary thing to do at all.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

It's quite the opposite. But you could say it is the refusal to sacrifice others that characterizes Christ. Well, definitely that. And we're not willing to resort to violence. You're not willing to use power. You aren't willing to call down all the angels from heaven to stop the crucifixion. And so it's a refusal to sacrifice others.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

It's quite the opposite. But you could say it is the refusal to sacrifice others that characterizes Christ. Well, definitely that. And we're not willing to resort to violence. You're not willing to use power. You aren't willing to call down all the angels from heaven to stop the crucifixion. And so it's a refusal to sacrifice others.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

It's quite the opposite. But you could say it is the refusal to sacrifice others that characterizes Christ. Well, definitely that. And we're not willing to resort to violence. You're not willing to use power. You aren't willing to call down all the angels from heaven to stop the crucifixion. And so it's a refusal to sacrifice others.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

But, and then, yeah, maybe in some contexts, you have to lay down your life, your friends. There are things like that that happen, but I think it's much more, you know, the anti-sacrificial intuition. And you have this already in, you know, a number of the Old Testament prophets. I think it's Hosea, where it's, you know, God desires mercy and not sacrifice. You know, so it's, you know, and...

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

But, and then, yeah, maybe in some contexts, you have to lay down your life, your friends. There are things like that that happen, but I think it's much more, you know, the anti-sacrificial intuition. And you have this already in, you know, a number of the Old Testament prophets. I think it's Hosea, where it's, you know, God desires mercy and not sacrifice. You know, so it's, you know, and...

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

But, and then, yeah, maybe in some contexts, you have to lay down your life, your friends. There are things like that that happen, but I think it's much more, you know, the anti-sacrificial intuition. And you have this already in, you know, a number of the Old Testament prophets. I think it's Hosea, where it's, you know, God desires mercy and not sacrifice. You know, so it's, you know, and...

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And then these are sort of, in a way you can think of the Old Testament law as a sacrificial set of laws as it's centered on the temple and we have this sort of elaborate set of sacrifices. And then in some sense, Christ replaces it with, love the Lord your God with all your heart and mind and love your neighbor as yourself. And then pay attention to the moment. And then we could say,

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And then these are sort of, in a way you can think of the Old Testament law as a sacrificial set of laws as it's centered on the temple and we have this sort of elaborate set of sacrifices. And then in some sense, Christ replaces it with, love the Lord your God with all your heart and mind and love your neighbor as yourself. And then pay attention to the moment. And then we could say,

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And then these are sort of, in a way you can think of the Old Testament law as a sacrificial set of laws as it's centered on the temple and we have this sort of elaborate set of sacrifices. And then in some sense, Christ replaces it with, love the Lord your God with all your heart and mind and love your neighbor as yourself. And then pay attention to the moment. And then we could say,

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

We could say it's, and then he says he's not getting rid of the Old Testament law. Yeah. But if you do those two things, you don't need any of the Old Testament law anymore. Okay, so let's delve into that. You can even eat bacon and pork.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

We could say it's, and then he says he's not getting rid of the Old Testament law. Yeah. But if you do those two things, you don't need any of the Old Testament law anymore. Okay, so let's delve into that. You can even eat bacon and pork.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

We could say it's, and then he says he's not getting rid of the Old Testament law. Yeah. But if you do those two things, you don't need any of the Old Testament law anymore. Okay, so let's delve into that. You can even eat bacon and pork.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

Which was a really, really bad thing to do under the Old Testament law.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

Which was a really, really bad thing to do under the Old Testament law.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

Which was a really, really bad thing to do under the Old Testament law.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And then there's another side... Let me push back on just that description. Is it a sacrificial move or is it a rational move? Because... there's some way in which- I think it's both. It's both. It's rational once you can see the future, right? But it's sort of very, to the extent it's rational, it may not be that sacrificial. You know, you save money in order to buy a house.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And then there's another side... Let me push back on just that description. Is it a sacrificial move or is it a rational move? Because... there's some way in which- I think it's both. It's both. It's rational once you can see the future, right? But it's sort of very, to the extent it's rational, it may not be that sacrificial. You know, you save money in order to buy a house.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And then there's another side... Let me push back on just that description. Is it a sacrificial move or is it a rational move? Because... there's some way in which- I think it's both. It's both. It's rational once you can see the future, right? But it's sort of very, to the extent it's rational, it may not be that sacrificial. You know, you save money in order to buy a house.