Peter Van Sant

And so when all those emotions come into play, some instinctual behavior, I would think, goes to the surface and then anything is possible.

Mark Stover's body has never been recovered. The story that Michael Oakes told on the stand at that trial, I believe, is an absolute lie. On the morning in which was the last time people believe Stover may have been alive, the morning that he was shot, an employee is at the base of the driveway and she looks up and she sees Stover's white station wagon.

Mark Stover's body has never been recovered. The story that Michael Oakes told on the stand at that trial, I believe, is an absolute lie. On the morning in which was the last time people believe Stover may have been alive, the morning that he was shot, an employee is at the base of the driveway and she looks up and she sees Stover's white station wagon.

And at the back end of it, she sees Mark Stover loading something into the back of that station wagon. Why did she think it was Mark? Well, because he was wearing his trademark wide brim hat and this dark sort of trench coat like thing. Stover closes the back and comes down the driveway, lies right past her. Well, Michael Oakes, how we know now,

And at the back end of it, she sees Mark Stover loading something into the back of that station wagon. Why did she think it was Mark? Well, because he was wearing his trademark wide brim hat and this dark sort of trench coat like thing. Stover closes the back and comes down the driveway, lies right past her. Well, Michael Oakes, how we know now,

And he admitted because he said that he shot Stover, put his body in the back of this car, panicked, and he drove off. How would he know to put on Mark Stover's hat? How would he know to put on Mark Stover's trench coat? Who would have told him that? How would he know Mark Stover's patterns in the morning, what time he arrives at work?

And he admitted because he said that he shot Stover, put his body in the back of this car, panicked, and he drove off. How would he know to put on Mark Stover's hat? How would he know to put on Mark Stover's trench coat? Who would have told him that? How would he know Mark Stover's patterns in the morning, what time he arrives at work?

How would he know about where the dogs are and the fact that Mark Stover had a Belgian exotic breed that Linda knew that dog was trained that if Mark uttered one word and the family never told me what that word was, this dog would attack to kill another human being. That dog was shot three times in the head. How would he know all these things?

How would he know about where the dogs are and the fact that Mark Stover had a Belgian exotic breed that Linda knew that dog was trained that if Mark uttered one word and the family never told me what that word was, this dog would attack to kill another human being. That dog was shot three times in the head. How would he know all these things?

I mean, look, they did this investigation and they questioned her extensively. They questioned her on the stand. I questioned her. And in the course of this podcast, I'm very direct with her. And she understood that when we were doing this interview, there was no topic that was going to be unchallenged in this. And it's, you know, listen to it and see what you think.

I mean, look, they did this investigation and they questioned her extensively. They questioned her on the stand. I questioned her. And in the course of this podcast, I'm very direct with her. And she understood that when we were doing this interview, there was no topic that was going to be unchallenged in this. And it's, you know, listen to it and see what you think.

We know that after he left, he drove down about 30 miles to Everett, Washington to meet with, this is Oaks, with his ex-wife. He says to her, if cops knew what was in the back of my vehicle right now, I'm paraphrasing, I'd go away to prison for life. We know now the body was in the back of that vehicle. But at trial, he said that he took it down to this, there's a body of water called a slough.

We know that after he left, he drove down about 30 miles to Everett, Washington to meet with, this is Oaks, with his ex-wife. He says to her, if cops knew what was in the back of my vehicle right now, I'm paraphrasing, I'd go away to prison for life. We know now the body was in the back of that vehicle. But at trial, he said that he took it down to this, there's a body of water called a slough.

It's a river that goes into the saltwater bay there. And he claims that he dumped his body in the slough. Well, it's very shallow. And the bay that it flows into at low tide is all sand. And they took a submersible. They looked everywhere. There's no body there. And

It's a river that goes into the saltwater bay there. And he claims that he dumped his body in the slough. Well, it's very shallow. And the bay that it flows into at low tide is all sand. And they took a submersible. They looked everywhere. There's no body there. And

I believe that he took the body and because when he drove back to Linda's place on the eastern side of Washington State, going through the Cascade Mountain Range, there are dozens and dozens of logging roads. I believe he pulled off somewhere and dumped the body there. And the reason why he won't even to this day, because we asked him, we spoke with him before we did our final act on this.

I believe that he took the body and because when he drove back to Linda's place on the eastern side of Washington State, going through the Cascade Mountain Range, there are dozens and dozens of logging roads. I believe he pulled off somewhere and dumped the body there. And the reason why he won't even to this day, because we asked him, we spoke with him before we did our final act on this.

Where's the body? He said, I dumped it in the river. He won't change his story today because that body, if recovered, of course, it would just be bones, but I believe it would have a skull that has a bullet hole in it. It's not the story that he told. And within the podcast, I'm hoping that this will fuel more discussion among law enforcement as well.

Where's the body? He said, I dumped it in the river. He won't change his story today because that body, if recovered, of course, it would just be bones, but I believe it would have a skull that has a bullet hole in it. It's not the story that he told. And within the podcast, I'm hoping that this will fuel more discussion among law enforcement as well.

And because I still think this is a case that has unanswered questions, that there are people living today who know those answers. You know, Maggie, what this is like, people tend over the course of time to tell confidential stories to friends, associates, people they trust, family members or things.