Phil Davis

And at the end of the day, it didn't matter because that's football and it's been happening for centuries.

How concerned should these fans be about the state of this club?

You're getting wins on the field, but more chaos, more setbacks.

I think it's a good club, and it's trying to get itself to great, and sometimes you've got to make hard decisions for that to happen.

That's where I think it's at.

No, not at all.

Experience, knowledge in the football area, but he did have some very good traits, you know, around the commercial world in particular and stakeholder engagement.

So he had his strengths and he had his weaknesses, like most of us.

Oh, I can't answer that one.

What I would say is there are very few CEOs who come from outside football into football.

and become successful CEOs in footy.

Very few.

If I asked you now who are they, you probably couldn't tell me.

It's a difficult task to understand the footy culture.

And that's where Paul probably needed to... And that's why I was brought in, to try and help that progression.

I've been through a fair bit over the years, over 40 years.

No, this one's a bit unfortunate.

I feel for Paul.

He's a good man, but...

Footy has a strange way of working sometimes.