Phil Davis

So you were missed here and there and you just could dodge it.

It didn't follow you.

But now...

The money in the game means that professionalism has to go up in terms of everything and the risk mitigation goes down.

So players are getting put in more and more of a cocoon.

I think they're getting more separated from the real world.

And then they're also under more scrutiny.

So I think, A, the drop once you get out of that cocoon is further.

And then secondly, when you're in the cocoon, the pressure's heightened.

Yeah, and I think...

there's a pretty strong burning platform for change there.

Yeah, we've got some work to do.

I think if you look at Kate Hall being stepped up a few years ago, there's some expansion that can be done there.

So there's definitely some framework there.

And this is not to say that the AFL haven't done all these things.

I just think there needs to be a shift.

There needs to be a shift with the growing demands and requirements.

And then there's an element of oversight and governance that's required to ensure that when you advance the overall system and structure,

it then flows how it should.

Yeah, I think, first of all, you say thank you to Dave for going up and banging the fort and building a football club that's had the success that it's had and also in the challenges.