Phil 'Gus' Gould

And I guess that's how most people get into it.

By the time you know it all, your body's too buggered up to do it.

Not so much.

I've kind of kept to myself with all of that over the years and even over the years.

You know, there are some players that are real students of the game that you enjoy talking to and –

I guess in the evolution of coaches and coaching over the period of time, there's always been those people that have really taken it serious.

I mean, the coach that we've got at the Bulldogs at the moment, Cameron Serraldo, has been on a 10 or 12-year journey of personal development in so many different ways, not just around football, but professional sports, leadership, communication, presentation, and all that sort of thing.

He's been quite remarkable.

And that's the modern-day professional coach.

That's...

and he's been going to be a career coach from the time he gave up playing, and he will be forever.

That's why you talk about longevity in these things.

I think they're all wired the same way, and it's why they have success over a long, long period of time.

It's more than just the X's and O's of how to put on a play or make a tackle.

It's everything else that you've got to have into it that makes you the professional football coach that can actually help a program, help your other staff, help your other coaches.

Manage your staff, manage your coaches, manage the media, manage the board, manage the sponsors, manage everyone else who wants a piece of you.

They're really difficult jobs these days.

It's not the X's and O's that beat them.

No.

If I call a game, I don't go home and sleep.